Monday, September 28, 2015

Photographer Series #23: ryanshotkatemoss


Ryan Oliver is a Bristol based artist whose collage/photomontage works have been exhibited throughout the UK and also have been featured in numerous publications. His current practice examines the visual language of high fashion and lifestyle periodicals. 
Oliver's 'Untitled', photomontage/2015
- an example of a recent non-kate collage

He looks at the ideas of beauty and perfection being “constantly scrutinized, cut from the original context and juxtaposed with strenuous misalliance”. His creations facilitate a dialogue between the innuendo laden visual languages of fashion imagery with pornography. He does this very effectively by exchanging something implicit for the explicit. 

Ryan has stated, “I derive great satisfaction from abducting imagery aimed at the consumer and inverting the content to communicate divergent views ... my work confronts fashion's covenant of eternal youth; tumorous flesh, death and grief are imposed as rebuttal".



In the following excerpt - taken from an interview for 'East London Line', March 2011 (conducted by Angus Spawton-Rice) - Ryan spoke as to how he came to such ideas, giving context as to his kate work we explore with him:

A section of 'Girl with pearls',
photomontage with sellotape/2010
I began to work with collage when I studied illustration at university, where, the fulfillment of a given brief was the only concern. After graduation, when liberated from the constraints of an illustrative mindset, I expanded my practice. High fashion/lifestyle periodicals became my primary resource from which I scoured for and salvaged my imagery. During this laborious process, the visual language of fashion photography/advertising became apparent, beauty/perfection and sexualisation being the two constants. Due to my close proximity with this material I became concerned with the position of women regarding image and representation. Collage is the perfect medium for such a rebuttal. Collage by its very nature is disparaging of its source material; a destructive gesture of cutting and slicing a pre-existing image, only to be redeemed by the perpetrator, as he or she sees fit. It is a response and is countering to what was presented originally.



iskm: Why Kate Moss? Is she a primary source for you in this confrontation?

Ryan Oliver (RO): The pieces that I submitted (to ishotkatemoss) are samples taken from various periods in my practice. Kate Moss has never had preferential treatment in my studio. I select models/images on aesthetics (posture, gaze, colour, tone) and the capacity to communicate a new dialogue. However, Kate Moss is an icon and I am conscious that her inclusion affords a work gravitas that an alternate muse would not.



iskm: How many works have you created using kate?

RO: I've created four images using Kate Moss, all of which are collage with no other means of manipulation. I'm terribly traditionalist when it comes to collage/photomontage; scissors and a glue stick is all I permit myself.

'Death Moss', photomontage with resin finish/2012

iskm: How/why did you select the source images that you did for ‘Death Moss’?

RO: With ‘Death Moss’ I began with multiple black and white images of the dead and their grieving relations, sourced from ‘Bizarre’ magazine. My intention was to juxtapose these with a high fashion image of a model to contrast vitality and beauty worship with necrosis and bereavement. 



iskm: And why this specific image of kate as the source?

RO: I chose this image of Kate Moss, which would become ‘Death Moss’ not simply for the physical ‘scaffold’ for which I could impose mortality but the seduction of the sexual gaze. Whilst initially conflicting, this amalgamation has transformed Kate Moss into a succubus, an ‘angel of death’, hence the title ‘Death Moss’.


'Kate (shame series)', collage/2013

iskm: You impose harsh, powerful and confronting imagery against the backdrop of modern ideas of beauty in order to ‘confront fashion’s covenant’. Do you feel that you need to make people uncomfortable in order to get the message through today? 'Kate (shame series)' as an example is far more understated. Is there a role for subtlety in this conversation?

RO: My work is initially constrained by the source material I can acquire. I endeavor to appropriate the imagery honestly to create aesthetic and contextual interest, sometimes subtly and sometimes less so. I can’t imagine considering anything too risqué and would never personally censor my work. I am a firm believer that offence is taken not given.
 

Oliver's 'Untitled-6 (marriage series)', photomontage 2009

iskm: Where do you find the line drawn between pornography and fashion? As an example, are you challenging (or emphasizing the lack of) this line in your Untitled-6 Kate collage? 

RO: There is of course a difference; pornography is explicit, sex is the product. Fashion imagery (to varying degrees) is implicit, using sexuality to incentivize. ‘Untitled 6’ is a mirroring of the posture, gaze and sexual ‘availability’ that is present in the language of pornography and fashion imagery alike.

In an earlier interview I mentioned that I invert content to communicate divergent views. This is the essence of collage. As The Dadaist Hugo Ball expressed, "For us, art is not an end in itself ... but it is an opportunity for the true perception and criticism of the times we live in." Over the past two decades, the use of increasingly explicit sexual imagery in the media, especially in consumer-oriented print advertising has become almost commonplace. Sex sells. I don't suspect much will change in the next ten, twenty years.



iskm: Which artist/s and/or photographer/s would you most want to most see involved in ishotkatemoss?

RO: I would really like to see what the Chapman brothers or John Stezaker would contribute; the Chapmans for their particular brand of irreverence and Stezaker for his economic yet masterful form of appropriation.



In the meantime, we can certainly continue to be challenged by Ryan’s own irreverent, appropriated imagery by viewing more of his collage work at www.ryanoliverart.com



Observe. Slow Down. Shoot. Submit.

Saturday, September 26, 2015

Nothing tastes as good as kate food looks?



We’ve just had a week of instagram inspired culinary related kate’s, proving the point that plenty tastes as good as skinny feels!



Who wants kate-mossarella pizza?!? From the pizza art master Domenico Crolla:


PS Who wants leftovers? One wasn't enough so we give you more kate-mossarella from the pizza art master Dominico Crolla! Seeing kate like this in the morning is like waking up to that cold, extra slice from last night ... just so so good!



Got egg on your face? This mixed media piece, titled "Mulher é Comida" (women & food) from Ricardo Franzin is perfect for Sunday brunch!



And, what about when you are desperate for some kate but only have one minute to satisfy your hunger? A cup of insta-kate from Sandra Otoya:



Possibly the best found culinary inspired kate yet ... this image and associated text from Celebs-in-my-food, who - you guessed it - puts celebrities in her food:

"WHEN YOU GET HOME DRUNK ON A MONDAY NIGHT AND YOU'RE STAYING AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE AND YOUR MUM HAS GOT SOME PARMA HAM IN BUT ALSO HAS A FRIDGE THAT CONTAINS SOME CHEESE SLICES AND SOME WARBURTONS TOASTIE IN THE CUPBOARD AND YOU JUST THROW EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO GET A MIDDLE CLASS MEETS WORKING CLASS DISH, AND KATE MOSS IS THERE TOO … TASTED LOVELY!!!"



Who's chipper? Continuing the food theme, kate has been "immortalised" (until a seagull comes along) by Prudence Staite in potato, with mushy peas and various condiments. Kate's face was created from mayo and thousands of peppercorns, held down by 5 kilos of dark chocolate ‘glue’. Prudence stated: "It was hard to resist picking up a chip (fry) and dunking into the celebs face!"


Rounding out the food week, after you've eaten everything else you need coffee and dessert!
Who needs a shot of kate? This "skinny" cappuccino is from Michael Breach, a barista who creates latte-art:
And Hungry eyes: Artist Jen Allanson has a whole series of 'kate moss eyes on food" here on Tumblr! Let's look longingly before consuming ...



ishotkatemoss guesses we are all what we eat …
Observe. Slow Down. Chew. Shoot. Submit.

Sunday, September 13, 2015

Photographer Series #22: SEELshotkatemoss


Born in the late 70s in Île-de-France, Sylvain Bousseton, aka ‘SINKE’, aka ‘SEEL’, has been “exercising pictorial activity” since 1996. His desire to display his artistic talents on open spaces began at an early age. Specifically, his taste for drawing led him to re-paint his parent’s living room: “It is a very good memory, but maybe not for everyone in my family!”
 
SEEL's BOMBUS 002
He discovered graphic art while skateboarding and through graffiti, where he drew its nickname "think" and then "five" (‘cinq’ in French) and finally "Sinke". While at university, Sylvain studied art and visual communication before working with a design firm and assisting several brands of street wear. 

Paralleling his professional activity, Sylvian organized and participated in several exhibitions, based around the intersection of graffiti, graphic design and painting.

Sylvain took the pseudonym ‘SEEL’ in 2010, abandoned exhibitions to focus on creating a free form of display, in order to be “out of sight of others”, specifically so as to reconnect with his first love: drawing. 

SEEL explains: “My inspirations are diverse: Whether it be a leaf, JJ Audubon, Aslan (the French pin-up artist), tattoo art, typography of the 70s and 80s … or things that return me to my childhood.
iskm: How would you describe your work?
SEEL: The starting point is still typography, drawing and the approach of the letter which remain the central elements at the base of my creations. I am drawn to the female form and often mix an image with types and collages taken from subway advertising because I love the spontaneity and the recycling of the visual pollution of our society.

iskm: Your imagery and symbolism often use images of destruction and death (skulls, planes, guns) but not in an overtly harsh way. Why use these images in your work?
SEEL: For me, planes, skulls, guns are representations of vanity and it's why there are always important in my work. I can't stop focusing on things like death because “death is life”.

iskm: Why Kate Moss?
SEEL: At first, I would say that it is by chance, a coincidence - I really liked the pose in the original picture, which I have taken for my drawing. But the fact that it is a world famous model upset me because I was always working with the idea of anonymous people. Nevertheless, she represents the best and the worst at the same time, in a similar vain to the idea of, and relationship between, death and life … the iconic beauty and futility of the fashion business. So I adopted kate as my model. Naturally.


Kate by Alas & Piggott
iskm: How do you select your source kate image/s and what is your process for appropriation?
SEEL: I usually create a "hybrid" girl, using different parts from different bodies, in order to make a desired pose. But for the Kate Moss series I worked directly from an image of her. Then I used only a rotring to draw with dots, before combining my drawing with graphic parts taken from various collages. 

iskm: And you also screen print your kate onto background images?
SEEL: Yes, I create unique screen print series on collage backgrounds taken from old vintage playboy magazines, subway advertising or spray paint on paper and then I hand screen print the Kate Moss image in Black before doing any touching up if needed. I take background images that inspire me, whatever they are or wherever they come from - but I love the old vintage adult magazine, I don't know why but perhaps it reminds me of my childhood or bygone days!
iskm: Where do you find your source images?
SEEL: I have been collecting pictures since I was kid, and of course with the web the access to images is now Huge. However, I am more and more interested in vintage magazines, such as playboy, in order to select the models I want to draw ...

iskm: How do you find the magazines and why choose the vintage adult pictures?
SEEL: I found a collection of playboy and French magazines a few year ago... And some are from my father's collection. I used to look at them in secret when I was kid … so I love those. I don't know why, perhaps they give me more emotions, memories or puts me in a nostalgic mood.
A photo of SEEL's street work posted by a member of the public on instagram
iskm: We found your work on social media posted by others. Is the internet and social media now the latest form of public display and, as such, taken the role of street image graffiti?
SEEL: I used to be more active on the streets when I worked with graffiti, more than 10 years ago. For a few years I did not even display what I did. I was not too motivated to show what I do cause I only wanted to do it for me because I just wanted to draw.
I am not so active in the streets but I am slowly working back into it … I don't really like the social networks and displaying work that way. I am a little bit of a loner so I don't know how people interact with what I do. However, one year ago I wanted to be back on the street because it is the place of the ART...

iskm: Which photographers/artists would you most want to most see involved in ishotkatemoss?
SEEL: Aslan is one of my favorite artists. For me he is a master for the vintage pin up. He used to draw a playmate every month in a French adult magazine call LUI during the eighties. Unfortunately, he recently died so it is too late …

We here at ishotkatemoss find SEEL’s art powerful and compelling. If you are fortunate enough to be in Paris, keep an eye out for his images on the street. Alternatively, you can experience more of his creations at www.seelecta.fr

SEEL: Thanks for your support. Keep it up!

Just like SEEL dear readers ...
Observe. Slow Down. Shot. Submit.

Milestone ... of sorts

Observe. Slow Down. Shoot. Submit.

Sunday, September 6, 2015

Distorted kate t-shirt week


This past week we chose our favorite askew moss-tee images found on instagram and posted one daily. Each image, the applicable captions, #tags, comments and of course number of likes (as at the end of the weekend) are all collated here for your viewing pleasure:

Monday: 14 likes
... we'll kick off the series with this image from @jo_hannae where we find kate morose, forlorn yet wiggly #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #morose #forlorn #idontlikemondays #distorted #wiggly
Comments: 
lucaisgenevra #amazing...
ishotkatemoss Thanks @lucaisgenevra ... all credit to @jo_hannae and the fine makers of the kate tee ... i shot kate moss is just the conduit

Tuesday: 12 likes
... this image is from @oneno_xoxo where a crumpled kate still manages to keep her ciggy aflame! #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #crushed #supreme #terryrichardson
Wednesday: 12 likes
It's a bit of a stretch ... this image is from @joelyamil who photographed kate being worn by a buxom friend #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #stretched
Comments:
joelyamil Jajajajajaja ❤❤❤ #senos #bubies #tetas #argentina
fashiontshirtlovers Brilliant! Like it!

Thursday: 15 likes
Nose jobs ... these images are from @250rlg who created his own plastic surgery on our moustached kate photographed kate #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #nosejob #plasticsurgery #moustache

Friday: 24 likes
Double chin ... this image is "#mysexyshot" from @spungy25 who, according to his #tags took this photo of his favorite tee after work, while bored in shinjuku #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #doublechin #supermodel #japan #tokyo #shinjuku #bored #favorite

Saturday: 17 likes
Now bring me my slippers ... this pic is from @woistmeindeckel who states she took the photo "Cause I have the cutest dog ever"! And who are we to disagree? #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #dog #puppy #moustache #elevenparis #instadog #cutestdog #dogwithclotheson
 
Sunday: 16 likes and counting
Sunday morning and "waking up with the Kates" ... this pic is from @ez_rebel who actually has named his frenchie pup "kate moss" #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #katemossthefrenchie #tshirt #askew #distorted #frenchie #dog #puppy #playboy #bunny #marcjacobs #instadog #sundaymorning

#Observe #Slowdown #Shoot #Submit

P.S. Monday (it is a long weekend in the US): 17 likes 
Laundry day: we spotted this image from @alelsf … nice way to round out distorted kate t-shirt week ... it is labor day after all and if you don’t have anything exciting planned, may as well wash your kate #ishotkatemoss #katemoss #katem0ss #katemosstee #tshirt #askew #distorted #crushed #wash #supreme #terryrichardson #laborday #laundry

Sunday, August 16, 2015

Photographer Series #21: antshotkatemoss


Here are a few interesting statistical tidbits for you dear reader as the ishotkatemoss project starts to enter its way into the not-so-mainstream cultural conversation:
(i) As of last week, www.ishotkatemoss.com has 479 images included in the collage; and 
(ii) The greatest number of submissions from one single artist is 22 images. Street artist, Gregg LeFevre, who we featured in Photographer Series 13, holds the record … 
that is until we were introduced to the remarkable work of British artist Ant Pearce, who sent us 92 kate images, all of which he has created over the last 9 months.

Kate #1#1x2 (59·4x84·1cm), Cotton thread sewn on paper
Influenced by Freud’s theories and the writings and philosophies of Dostoyevsky, Kafka and Camus, Ant’s practice alludes to the idea that “external authority is what brings about man’s aberrant destructive behaviors”. His work is inspired by Freud’s structural model of human consciousness, being that our minds are made up of three interconnecting entities: the id, the ego and the super-ego. He addresses such an idea through the presentation of series of Thread Drawings, with select pieces created as Line Drawings (ink on paper) and Syringe Paintings (emulsion on medium-density fiberboard). Through a web of cross-references between color, medium and form the viewer is positioned before the image in a conversation between order and chaos. As Ant specifies, ”Each work brings into visibility the sense of imprisonment and anxiety, which underlie human existence”.

His work has progressed into pieces, which explore aspects of gender, narcissism and the life and death drives, as discussed by Freud, through various imagery including the depiction of fashion icons, which of course leads us to kate.
Twenty-five different Kate images from Ant's #6 series
iskm: Why Kate Moss?
Ant Pearce (AP): My work addresses the fragility of life through aspects of human psychology - the constant flux of breaking apart and reforming. Kate Moss embodies these ideas to me. In a world increasingly littered with celebrity and vulgarity, Kate Moss is a true icon flowing with artistic talent and elegance with a twist of 'rock 'n roll'.
Kate #2#2x2 & Kate #2#3x2 (both 21x29·7cm), both Gold thread sewn on paper + cotton thread sewn on 24kt gold leaf

iskm: We have never featured someone who has made so many kate artworks. Why so many reflections on her? 

AP: Kate has a chameleonic quality, which I find bewitching and inspiring - she emits a sense of hope. As Vogue stated '…Kate Moss defies categorisation'.

Thirty different Kate images from Ant's doubled sided work

iskm:  Given that 'chameleonic' viewpoint, each time you are creating a piece are you seeing or finding something different about her, yourself or us? Do you find the need to keep coming back to her repetitive? Is it meditative? Are you trying to capture an essence that maybe you, and we (as external observers of her image), simply can't grasp?

Kate #1#3 (81x116cm), Emulsion + yatch varnish on MDF
AP: I do not feel it has anything to do with a compulsion, nor does it relate to repetition (since I always create something new and different) and it is only meditative in as much as making any thread drawing is. Although my choice of word would be 'relaxing'.
The reasons are mainly to do with my dissatisfaction with the images I end up creating. There is something I find magical about Kate Moss (as I do with Jane Birkin), which I seem unable to express. Although she is very much of the world, I feel that trying to capture her is like trying to take hold of 'air'. She has an unworldly quality about her, like a will-o'-the-wisp. No matter how many times I try and represent her, and convey the feeling she evokes, I never seem to manage it. With this in mind it is likely that I will return to creating more work based on Kate in the future.

iskm: How do you select the source kate imagery? 
AP: I was lucky enough to be given a collection of magazines that featured Kate. I chose images that captivated me either as portraits or full figures. It's a bit like being moved inside by a piece of music. I thought it would be interesting to make the Playboy series, combining image with branding, particularly after I learnt that Kate had chosen the Playboy bunny ears and costume, used in the 60th edition shoot, in the Vogue UK Christmas 2014 feature 'A few of my favourite things'.
Kate #2 #1 & Kate #2 #2 & Kate #2 #3 (each: 21x29·7cm), all Cotton thread sewn on gold mirror paper

iskm: Can you explain your process?
AP: My creation process oscillates between the desire for structure, through mapping, which I then abandon in favour of fluidity. Thus, each work is created through a combination of control and chance, conscious and subconscious. New works rely more heavily on intuition, with the formation of overlapping and intersecting angular planes resulting in a stronger sense of flux and instability.

iskm: Why do you chose to use thread? Draw? And Paint? Is there any conceptual distinction in choosing one tool of creation over another?
Twenty-eight Kate images from Ant's Playboy series
AP: I had been making installation-based work using various materials, one of which was thread. When I moved to making more accessible works I decided to continue using the thread since it gives the work a three-dimensional textural quality. The action of sewing is delicate and traditionally thought of as feminine. I am able to use it in a way that creates strong images formed within a web-like structure. Thus, adding a real sense of fragility, imprisonment and movement into the work. The same is true of the other tools I use - paint is applied with a syringe and fine needle while lines are carefully drawn in ink on paper.

iskm: Why is the straight line critical in your work regardless of the chosen tool?
AP: I work around the idea that 'man is condemned to exist imprisoned' while drawing on aspects of human psychology as discussed by Freud. The underling focus relates to 'the life and death drives' - breaking apart into smaller matter and then reforming. 
These concepts are communicated through ‘breaking' and 'reforming' the image(s), using the straight and diagonal lines formed by sewing thread onto paper, drawing with ink and applying paint with a syringe. Each piece embraces the idea of deconstruction and 'the spiritual importance of the line' as explored by Dutch avant-garde, constructivist Theo van Doesburg while the style of abstraction termed ‘painterly architectonics’, developed by Russian Cubo-Furturist Lyubov Popova, is clearly visible. Each medium has it's own quality and I often create a series of three works based on the same image using each of my creation methods. This demonstrates to the viewer how the same image appears very different while remaining the same, causing a sensation of movement between different states.
Kate #1#3 x2 (59·4x84·1cm), Cotton thread sewn on paper

ishotkatemoss pondered how kate tied back to the notion of “external authority” that brings about “man’s aberrant destructive behaviors”? Is the external authority as it relates to the choice of kate the fashion industry? Is it society at large? Is it more the idea of beauty? And then what is the associated destructive behavior? Our consumption? We asked Ant but in a way he preferred to leave the question open and give us the space to consider, question, deliberate and muse with his muse …
 

Kate #1#1 (81x116cm), Emulsion + yatch varnish on MDF
AP: I find Kate Moss inspiring. She gives me a sense of hope somehow. She embodies the idea of fragility and the human disposition in a positive way, something, which is broken while remaining intact - in a state of constant flux. My practice as a whole relates to the idea of the ‘external authority’ and how it brings about ‘man’s aberrant destructive behaviors’ through image and image style. I touch on the concept of the cultural super-ego, which Freud suggested influences the development of civilization and can be thought of as the introduction of ethics within society, which if not adhered to, results in punishment through a fear of conscience. 
I cannot help but feel that we often search for things that aren’t there, while not seeing what is.

iskm: Which photographers/artists would you most want to most see involved in ishotkatemoss? 
AP: Lichtenstein, Bacon, Schiele, Picasso. There is a clear linkage between my practice and these artists, particularly Bacon and Scheile. The interest in 'the flesh', the unconscious, movement and sensation. Something that Bacon refers to as 'deforming and reforming reality' while instinctively creating images within a 'deeply ordered chaos'. 
Kate #1#2x2 (59·4x84·1cm), Cotton thread sewn on paper
Given the number of artworks, it is difficult to display the intricacy and detail associated with each piece. As such, iskm suggests you delve more deeply into the work and Ant’s practice by looking at antpearce.com.
Better yet, for those in London, you have plenty of opportunities to see some of Ant’s Kate work in person including at: Espacio Gallery (18-23 August) as part of Sweet Art's Summer Art Festival; the Art on a Postcard stand at the Moniker Art Fair (October), to raise funds for The Hepatitis C Trust; at The Other Art Fair (October); and there will be a month long exhibition being organized by After Nyne in South Kensington (November). And for those outside of the UK, Ant is represented by Artvera's Galerie in Geneva, Switzerland and internationally by White Court Art.

With so many images to see you simply must:
Observe. Slow Down. Shoot. Submit.

Sunday, August 9, 2015

Copykat(e)


Last week we stumbled upon an ebay listing from “imusthaveitkate” that we thought of great interest:

Item Id:
291521950042
End time:
Aug-02-15 06:04:38 PDT
Seller information
100% Positive feedback

Item specifics
Seller Notes:
“In Superb Unmounted Condition, Colours are Bright and Sharp, has West Country Prince stamp and Banksy Copy Stamp Limited Edition of just 50 examples in Red/Yellow Colours, very slight indent bottom right but outside of mounting area so would not be seen when mounted, very tiny corner crease, again will be unseen if mounted, main image is perfect and sharp. I have receipt and can prove this is 100% with online history provenance, so please bid with confidence.”
Self-Representing Artist?:
No
Type:
Modern - Limited Edition
Original/ Repro:
Unknown
Subject:
Kate Moss
Signed?:
Unsigned
Style:
Pop Art

Hello,
I have for auction a very nice piece by Banksy of Kate Moss in the style of Warhols' Monroe, in Red/Yellow colours, limited edition of just 50 examples, stamped to the rear with the West Country Prince and Banksycopy stamps, size is approx. 70x70cm, colours are superb, nice and bright/sharp, has a small indent bottom right, which is in the mount boarder, so would not be seen when mounted up, and the top left corner has a very small crease, again not noticed if mounted up, I have shown these in the photos, as you can see they are very  very minimal, but wanted to mention it.
I have receipt of purchase, I can prove this is 100% authentic with online history/provenance etc so please bid with confidence.
A wonderful example of a Banksy, an artist who's works are very sought after.
Any questions about this piece please ask, happy for inspections and collections, more than happy to post worldwide to ebay registered addresses only, tracked where requested/paid.
Happy bidding.
KS

Included with the ad were 11 additional images of the print:

The piece had a starting bid of £0.99 (roughly US$1.54) which caught us off guard as you may recall from our ‘Pushing the boundaries andseeing what happens’ post of late-January, 2015 that a similar Banksy piece was being offered for 'only' $145,000. That is a pretty steep discount for a “100% authentic” and “wonderful example of a Banksy, an artist who's works are very sought after.”

So, we did a little bit of research on the web and found some interesting facts: BANKSYCOPY prints 'are the exact dimensions and colours as the originals, as they have been scanned from the original prints. They are stamped "BANKSYCOPY" on the reverse to prevent being sold on the market as originals. The only difference between these and the originals is that they are not signed or numbered by Banksy but come with their own numbering system and stamp.'

We also stumbled upon an interesting dialogue on a Banksy forum taking place on the Urban Art Association regarding the reproduction of such 'high quality' Banksy copies, which began with the following statement from ‘sundowner’, and includes some responses (with typos and misspells included) we have selected from just the first page of the, count them, 32 pages of responses:

Sundowner: … Banksy's images have been reproduced countless times the world over, but this is surely going a step too far in terms of reproducing the original print editions? The (ebay) listing states they are reproductions and go so far as to have a "Banksy Copy" stamp on them, but personally I think this is overstepping the mark and I am sure POW (iskm: 'Pictures on Walls', Banksy’s official outlet for the sale of his prints) will have an issue with this. Does this not violate ... copyright ... even though it says they are reproductions? …

curiosgeorge:  If they do then so does every other repro Banksy on ebay... Copyright and Banksy :) ... I wonder if a lot of forum members reading this are thinking should i be going mad at this? or buy some images i like just for the image alone rather than price tags?

craigf: Hmmm, I would expect they do violate copyright and being such clear copies doesn't sit well with me. To easy for one be sold already framed with the implication its the real deal
:(

trevorm: Too true. 'Somebody' should stop this. There's an obvious implication of a fraud in the making

shaky1181: I'd love to see banksy take someone to court...

rolex: Don't think he'l turn up some how. This is why people get away with doing stuff like this.

mmmike: I like it. I hope someone does a high end (but cheap) canvas version. I bet Banksy doesn't care.

brushstrokes75: … Ebay won't remove anything if Banksy (or his representation) don't ask them too ... Sometimes you like an image, don't want or don't have thousands to spend on it. Here you can get a quality copy … I actually like the fact it stamped copy on the back with their own blindstamp which makes it more legal in their illegality … I don't see what the problem is. As I recall, most people here keep saying that it's only about the image. So, why pay £2K for a print if you can buy the same quality image for £30 lol

chaserwr: … I want it.... Is it really the same quality as the original? I guess the screenprint isnt that difficult.

mojjac: You could have the whole Banksy portfolio for less than the cost of one unisgned print.

freeview: This is damaging and could really devalue ligit prints
:(

mojjac: I would have thought that if you loved the art for the message that it conveyed then its material value would not matter?

Guest: How could this devalue legit prints? Stuff like this has been on eBay for years. Most people now ask for a COA (iskm: Certificate of Authenticity) before they buy and you aren't going to get one of those for these. I don't see the issue, it’s all about if you want the image on your wall or the signature for bragging rights.

Time for iskm to jump back in … given that a COA is actually referenced for this copy as well, so we wondered, if you have a certificate specifying that the providence of the piece is a copy, does it make the piece authentic? We felt it best to inquire from the ebay seller and make sure they were aware it was a copy:

Dear imusthaveitkate,
Just want to clarify, this is not an authentic banksy print, right? ...
- iskm

We also directed them towards the additional information regarding the prints, in case they needed to reference what we found. A swift response was received from imusthaveitkate:

Dear iskm,
Thank you for the information, I was aware of this, hence the photo showing the Banksycopy stamp. Many thanks for your time.
Regards
KS
- imusthaveitkate

Ah, but the point we were making was not what the seller knows but what someone looking, reading and trying to understand providence would think. Of course, is art passing itself off as the same art forgery? What about if in the act of creation it acknowledges that it is a copy?
Is such a copy, particularly in reference to pop-art a reproduction or actually a new piece of art unto itself? Is a copy of a copy of a copy art?
From Gene Korman's Marilyn photograph, to Warhol to Banksy, to the ebay listing
What if you can justifiably prove it is a copy by having authentication that it is a copy!?! What did imusthaveitkate think about this, we wondered?

Dear imusthaveitkate,
Thanks.
We wanted to check as you do specify that it is "Unknown" whether it is an "Original" or "Repro". Also, found the following statement in your listing confusing yet interesting: "I have receipt of purchase, I can prove this is 100% authentic with online history/provenance etc so please bid with confidence."
Just wondering that if it is a copy, how is it authentic? An authentic copy is still a copy is it not?
- iskm

 
Unfortunately, no response was received.
Looking at banksy’s own site, www.banksy.co.uk, it is written: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use. However, making your own art or merchandise and passing it off as ‘official’ or authentic Banksy artwork is bad and very wrong."

We turned back to the forum and kept on reading:
hubblebubble: I guess the question is - does the seller seek to trick the purchaser by passing off the piece as "'official' or authentic Banksy artwork"? The seller is obviously hoping to profit from confusion ... I'm not a fan of this kind of behaviour, but I think it's pretty clear these works are not by our mysterious friend Mr B. Just sayin' :)

mattgold: I understand the ill feeling people have for this (copies)... and it doesn't sit completely well with me. But I have to admit, if I had the opportunity to get a Hirst ‘Valium’ reproduction printed in high quality for similar (even a bit more) I'd jump on it. Call it hypocritical... and you'd be right.

johnnyh: it will not effect the value of the orig prints etc. Never has. You can always buy a copy of anything but it does not effect the originals price whether that be a handbag, watch or a piece of art. Warhol is a perfect example of this with the Sunday B issues versus the originals. Massive price difference and they claim done on the same press … For those who cannot afford an original and there is nothing wrong with that. You can have one on your wall.
So I do not have a problem with the prints I do however have a problem that they are unlicensed as this is just someone making a quick buck off someone else's talent. Which in my humble opinion is wrong.
Banksy currently decides with POW what his issues sizes are signed or unsigned etc and that is his right. If he wants a zillion copies of that in IKEA etc he can do it but he decides not to and in my view that should be respected … Art is more than pictures. Collecting art is more than collecting images. Not saying it should be restricted and its not.
Look up any Banksy or any other artist’s image on the net and you can see it. This however is a copy of someone else's work …

Oh, by the way there were 7 bids on the kate moss banksycopy and the winning bid: was £42.00 (approx. US$65.59 + shipping). iskm kind of wishes we bought it, just so we could chop it up and make some art out of its pieces!

Oh wait, why do we need to buy it to do this … 
Is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy art?

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